Come On, (Huxtable) Fam.

Something’s been plaguing us for years now. As African American Children of the Eighties, we’ve grown up in the overwhelming shadow of one particularly enduring television show, and yesterday’s episode of Oprah, with its surprise cast reunion, really opened Pandora’s box of post-bourgie pontification.


As a result, we can’t help but involve you in our angst, as we ask: Just how important are The Cosby Kids, really? No, really. In the overall fabric of the American landscape—no, let’s make it personal—in the patchwork of the story quilt your life is telling, are these people any more than a wisp of thread waiting to be absently snipped by your shears?

We only ask because several social circles, media outlets, and apparently Spelman College have worked tirelessly to foist these folks upon us and demand that we acknowledge their profound impact on our collective consciousness. Every few years, someone trots them out, dusts them off, and makes them talk about their experiences as cast members of one of the most “ground-breaking” shows about an African American family in U.S. history. And we’re getting a little tired of it.

Speaking as someone who was born the same year as Keisha Knight Pulliam, I have to concede that watching that show made me wish Dizzy Gillespie, Joe Williams, Nancy Wilson, Blair Underwood, Tito Puente, and others would just… stop by to croon or pop-lock, unannounced. I wished Melba Moore was my music teacher. I hoped I’d grow up to be as cute as Justine when I was a teenager.

So you see, I’m not so above it all that I’ve forgotten the sitcom’s influence on my adolescent imagination. But that influence was pretty superficial, wasn’t it? It’s one thing to look at a show and admire all the cool multicultural, weirdly dressed teenagers using slang that never quite caught on. It’s quite another to credit a situation comedy with uplifting America’s view of the race or declaring that the Huxtables are singularly responsible for proving the existence of a Black middle class or, if you’re like Oprah’s show guest, Chatice, deeming The Cosby Show “the reason why [you] graduated from the University of Virginia, married an engineer, earn six figures and currently have two beautiful boys.”

That’s quite the large leap.

No one gets the show’s cultural import more than the cast members themselves, as is evidenced by all their reunions (one for NBC this year, one for Nick at Nite that year, a spiceless E! True Hollywood Story over there…) wherein they trot out a litany of stock answers about their retrospective response to their experience. We’ve heard it all before. “Mr. Cosby” was like a father. He valued education. They all went to college. They had “no idea” how “important” the show was until it was over. They still get mail today from fans thanking them for proving that “Black people do live like the Huxtables.”

Sigh. Wake me up when they start heralding the wonder that was Phylicia Rashad as Clair.

That’s a sentiment I can really get behind. As an elegantly twirling, impeccably coiffed, giggling, grinning, doting, reprimanding attorney-dancer-chanteuse, Rashad shone in a role that could’ve been serviceable at best and whenever “the Cosbys” get to the point in their reunion program where they lament the fact that she “never won an Emmy,” they’re preaching to the choir.

The rest of the time, though, they just seem like a bunch of self-important snobs, who sit high, look low, and don’t want to be associated with anything or anyone they deem “common” (read: Lisa Bonet), patting themselves on the backs for accomplishments long past.

Whether they’re voraciously bigging up “Mr. Cosby,” trying to appear philosophical and introspective, reassuring everyone that the values the show instilled have stuck to their adult incarnations, or making blanket statements about the U.S.’s persistent disbelief that Black doctors married Black lawyers, raised kids, and owned two cars and a brownstone, one thing’s certain: The Cosby actors are on a perpetual Talented Tenth tangent and no one wants to call them on it.
Well, we’re here to rise to that occasion and finally put to rest our long-held beef with the Cosby Kids’ seemingly over-inflated sense of self. Newsflash, guys: you weren’t the be-all, end-all spokespeople for the black middle-class, the black intelligentsia, or the black bohemia. And your show would’ve been a little less dated in syndication if you’d given Denise dysfunction that was a bit more realistic and relevant. She “drops out of college” to *gasp!* work… and everyone treats that like it’s the worst thing in the world, but then she goes to Africa (presumably on the family’s constantly replenishing dime) where she, very succinctly, finds both herself and a straight-laced husband who Talk Like a White Boy and happily, responsibly mothers his totally well-behaved, cherubic toddler.

What’s wrong with the “black middle-class” having legitimate flaws? Why did Sondra and Elvin have to go back to law and medical school in order to stop being the butt of the family jokes? Why is it soooo important, even now, fourteen years after the show’s debut, to come across as this exclusive, entitled, exempt bastion of black prosperity? They’re always bragging about the successive generations of kids still watching their sitcom but now that, according to them, everyone’s aware that a black middle class exists because of their televised efforts, what purpose is it serving for today’s youth? Is it spurring them on to post-secondary education? Or making them add “jammin’ on the one” lexicon? Are they most heartened by Denise, the dropout? Or do they most relate to her revolving door of bizarre friends (remember the one where Stacey Dash had the mysterious illness she needed to talk to a gynecologist[read: Cliff] about? Or the one where Lela Rochon got pregnant on purpose)?

And now that we’re asking questions: did Cousin Pam ever get that birth control she asked Cliff for? And what took Malcolm Jamal Warner so long, cutting off those dreads?

slb

slb (aka Stacia L. Brown) is a writer, mother, and college instructor in Baltimore, MD. Check her out here: http://stacialbrown.com and here: http://beyondbabymamas.com.
  • Robyn

    The whole Chatise bit was where I checked out of the building. I couldn’t even stomach it, really. And the convenient absence of Lisa Bonet, coupled with their constant references to “Mr. Cosby” was way more than I could stomach.

  • GVG

    “It’s quite another to credit a situation comedy with uplifting America’s view of the race or declaring that the Huxtables are singularly responsible for proving the existence of a Black middle class”

    I really had plans to get in your ass about your statement above and a few of your other assertions. Then you gave that thesis of Phylicia Rashad as Claire Huxtable and now all is forgiven. “never won an Emmy,” – I never realized that. I naturally assumed that a performance that groundbreaking and nuanced had to be acknowledged every year. Especially since the show won the top ratings spot every week as well. Shows how naïve I was to what this country really was. Going to hold my tix for opening night of Cat on a hot tin roof and ponder what life will be like once she accepts my marriage proposal.

    P.S. I just jacked that photo you had of her. Thanx.

    P.P.S. Look up the the dramatic incline in HBCU enrollment the years “The Cosby show” and “A different world” were on the air.

    Ok I’m lying. I can’t not respond.

    “Newsflash, guys: you weren’t the be-all, end-all spokespeople for the black middle-class, the black intelligentsia, or the black bohemia.”

    Name the rest.

    If you weren’t middle class yourself, in most cases not all, and had access to personally, witness those images of upper middle class success in your everyday homelife and your parents enlightening you to those that came before them that paved the way – you didn’t. I have this discussion with people more than you’d believe who still believe the show wasn’t a reflection of any real black people anywhere. “A docter? A Lawyer? Married? Raising kids in a loving home with original art on the walls? All the kids went onto college? Hogwash!” I’ve given numerous copies of “Our kind of people” out to them to be told it’s a fictional novel. I had one person boldly proclaimed that Jack & Jill, once I told him what they were, and I quote – “That’s not real and if it is it was probably started by white people. Look at the name – Jack and Jill.” BTW, the person I speak of is black and has a college degree.

    P.S. to the third power. What’s so EVIL and WRONG with Dubois’s theory of the “Talented Tenth”??!!

  • GVG: The Cosby Show is directly responsible for the increase in enrollment at HBCU’s? It’s not the first time I’ve seen or heard that argument, but could you point to something that backs this assertion up?

    How do we know that this increase isn’t linked to other social phenomena, like the fact that black college enrollment has been increasing for decades?

  • GVG: To your other point…’The Talented Tenth’ is insulting and paternalistic, as noblesse oblige tends to be.

  • Ok, I don’t even know where to start with this post, lol.

    I was with you re: Soror Phylicia, and the overstatement of the effect the show has had.

    BUT.

    I have to say, this question really got me: “What’s wrong with the “black middle-class” having legitimate flaws?” Probably because I feel like you should know the answer to it.

    Today, flaws are everywhere. Shows are built on the concepts of imperfection, “reality,” and vice. And that’s fine, because we’ve come a way since the 80s. Seeing a black person with flaws no longer reflects on every black person in existence.

    But Cosby knew his characters couldn’t afford to have real problems. There was way too much at stake. I’d even venture to say that there still is (tell me you don’t cringe at 85% of BET’s programming!). Plus, it was a sitcom. How many characters on “Growing Pains” or “Silver Spoons” or “Benson” had real problems?

    The kids never really bothered me; they seem to be respectful of both Cosby and the legacy of the show. And I know you guys aren’t exactly fans of the Cos around these parts, but can’t he just have this?

    This post was a good read, but … naw.

    (Oh, and I’m excited MJW lost them dreads, too.)

  • CLC

    A problem with the idea of the “Talented Tenth” is the oppressive adoption of the need for the majority of Black people to be saved or guided to light by (White influence) a few Black people who have exposure to White people and can “civilize” the rest of the Black folk. We are no longer (if ever) monolithic and the idea that we all have the same experience in this country where 10 percent of us can bring to light and translate culture to the rest of us living in darkness is no viable.

    I do believe too much emphasis is placed on The Cosby Show. It has its place in TV history, but I would say it didn’t change the world or my world beyond it’s entertainment value and the ability to see Black folks on TV not cooning (see Flava of Love).

    -C.

  • GVG

    G.D.
    The statements I made concerning an increased enrollment by African Americans to HBCUs and other College and Universities having a direct correlation to the airing of The Cosby show and A Different World those same years were not based on hearsay – I personally saw the statistical data myself back then. I cannot find the actual enrollment numbers for the period, but if you Google it you will find it mentioned numerous times. Below are three excerpts of many.

    “The success and popularity of A Different World is credited with an increase in enrollment at historically Black colleges and universities during the late 1980s and early 1990s”

    ~Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Different_World_(TV_series)

    “the cosby show spin-off A Different World helped Historically Black Colleges and Universities reel in students.”

    ~Source: http://www.uni.edu/comstudy/ica/conference/2007/2007ICAProgram_final.pdf – The last graph on page 6

    “But what of its social impact? How was it, for example, that the show’s depiction of middle-class African Americans – all college educated or aspiring to attend college – led to a dramatic real-world increase in enrollment in higher education by African Americans?”

    ~Source: http://www.islamicamagazine.com/issue-19/a-muslim-sitcom.html

  • GVG: It’s not based on hearsay, but based on stats you saw back then that you can’t provide now?

    “The Cosby Show helped…reel in students.”

    That statement is so vague as to be unproveable.

    At a time when black people — and Americans in general — were attending colleges in record numbers, it seems like hyperbole to point to a sitcom (even a groundbreaking one) as a reason for the increase in enrollment in HBCUs.

  • GVG

    Yea. well G.D. I guess you’re just going to have to take my word on it.

  • GVG: Why should I accept your premise if it’s not based in fact, tho?

  • LH

    It seems to me that slb has a bone to pick with the black bourgeoisie in general and “The Cosby Show” in particular.

    She asked if the show and its characters impacted our collective consciousness only to tell us that Chatice’s statement is a leap. Does she believe her story is so farfethced or is it a leap because she wasn’t similarly impressed? I’d have a more difficult time believing that more kids weren’t similarly inspired than I would believing the opposite.

    I’ve never been convinced that blacks, regardless of class, were the show’s primary audience any more than they were for the vaguely minstelish “The Jeffersons,” or “Good Times.”

    That said, the idea that “The Cosby Show” enjoyed the popularity it did (and does) among blacks, particularly those who were born during the 70s, would suggests that it had more cultual import than the author is willing to concede.

    slb asked what’s wrong with the middle class having “legitimate” flaws. What qualifies as legitimate? The example she cited of Sondra and Elvin being shamed into going to law and medical school is a scenario that plays out more than she may know, if only thematically. Kids who are born to college educated parents are steered toward attending college whether or not they realise it. I certinaly was, and when I talk to people who were also born to college educated parents, their stories are almost always, ‘There was never a question of if I was going to college, but which college I would go to.’

    I have a friend whose great-grandfather and grandfather, father, mother and brother are MDs or dentists. He didn’t really want to be a physician but sure enough, that’s what he is today. My ex-girlfriend’s brother went to medical school while she worked as an insurance adjustor. Her father essentially cut her off until she went to law school.

    I believe that Cosby et al., are self-important but can’t see that as sufficient reason to diminish the importance or impact of “The Cosby Show.”

  • qcash4u

    I am a white female in mid 40’s
    i have enjoyed the show over the years without analizing the fact they are trying to be middle class black white or grey.. All i know is the show never made me blue..dont recall ever crying during a episode but i do recall laughing and i can even remember walking away with a better attditude.. That in itself is not done easily.. There is alot of shows i would dawg before the cosbies.. Bill has been around since before girlscout cookies..has he or do i have to ask the cavemen if they were around before cookies )MG I just laid out the plan for the cavemen cookies ..so ch ewy only a caveman would eat them.. ok maybe the cosbies are not all reality for the norm.. i bet you find 10 families as real as that before one caveman ask you to play dumb of whatever there opening line maybe.. ok i have to stop defending the C catagories is not my fav. can we move on to the D’s

  • tasha

    uh unh
    ya’ll hated on the cosby show
    the wrath of cosby shall get you
    i need to separate myself from ya’ll over analytical folk

  • Troy

    I think the Cosby show happened to come along at a time when secondary education was being highlighted in just about every sector of society. I can’t prove it, but I tend to think it was more a case of art imitating life than anything else.

  • shellyjackson110

    hated your piece. it clear you have some sort of class envy.
    read something from someone who knows better.

    http://conversate-is-not-a-word.blogspot.com/2007/12/ideality-vs-reality-when-keeping-it.html

  • slb

    I figured *this* would be the piece that sealed my fate as a perpetual and unequivocal Hater. That’s cool; I’ll be that (now with 80% more class envy!)

    That said, it’ll take me a while to address everyone’s gripes/points/concerns/attacks, etc. But I’ll start here:

    shani-o:

    “But Cosby knew his characters couldn’t afford to have real problems. There was way too much at stake. I’d even venture to say that there still is (tell me you don’t cringe at 85% of BET’s programming!). Plus, it was a sitcom. How many characters on “Growing Pains” or “Silver Spoons” or “Benson” had real problems?”

    – Good point(s). The Cosby Show *did* emerge in an era where the majority of sitcoms didn’t focus on “real” problems (i.e. problems larger than having to stay late for a lecture from your track coach for laughing at an overweight girl or sneaking off to Baltimore). And the show, rose-colored as it was, entertained all of us. I’m not sure how damaging the inclusion or examination of weightier issues would’ve been to the show as a whole, but you’re right that that wasn’t really the aim or intent of that program. According to the cast, the aim and intent were to give viewers a sense of what a healthy middle-class Black family looks like. Cool. What I take umbrage with is their (and a lot of viewers’) assertion that this show revolutionized the country’s perception of Black people–as though before this, no one knew that a black middle class existed or before this, black kids didn’t aspire to attend or graduate from college.

    LH:

    “Does she believe her story is so farfethced or is it a leap because she wasn’t similarly impressed? I’d have a more difficult time believing that more kids weren’t similarly inspired than I would believing the opposite.”

    – I believe it’s a leap to name The Cosby Show *the* reason (not one among a number of reasons, but *the* reason) she achieved her life’s successes. It’s far-fetched than any television sitcom can be named as the only reason a person accomplished anything.

    Also: to your point about the Sondra/Elvin thing being a “legitimate problem,” I hadn’t looked at it that way. I appreciate your perspective.

    GVG:

    ““Newsflash, guys: you weren’t the be-all, end-all spokespeople for the black middle-class, the black intelligentsia, or the black bohemia.”

    Name the rest.”

    – The rest would be the people any of us have encountered in life, prior to or since, the debut of The Cosby Show. Not everyone in this country was ignorant to the existence of a middle class, a bohemian culture, or an intelligentsia among African American people before this show aired. It seems the cast, in their reunion interviews, want us to believe the opposite.

    In closing, for now, I want to thank all of you for the stimulating discourse. I think it’s human nature to look back on our cultural icons with a critical eye, and I hope we can continue to civilly challenge one another here.

  • slb

    I’d like to add: my intent wasn’t to “diminish the impact” of The Cosby Show. Instead, I think it’s worthwhile to figure out whether or not Cosby and cast’s view of their impact is an accurate one–and, quite frankly, I’m not sure it is.

  • I must admit that I never realized the “impact” the Cosby Show had on American culture until yesterday when I heard them discussing it. I never viewed the Cosby Show as anything more than a sitcom. I lived in an upper middle class family, and my immediate surroundings were similar. HOWEVER, I have come to realize that everyone didnt live like this, and to every black family this wasnt “normal”.

    I must admit though, that A Different World impacted me personally and made me strive to get an education from an HBCU. Though it was never a question whether or not I was going to college, where I would go was the operative question. AFter watching A Different World and seeing “School Daze” it was very clear to me that I wanted to attend an HBCU.

    I find it hard otherwise to declare that any sitcom or television show impacted my life significantly. I always viewed television as mere entertainment, never once thinking that what happened on TV was beyong acting.

  • GVG

    SLB

    Thank you for attempting to speak to my point, however, if you’re going to quote me please use the full quote.

    I did say –

    “Newsflash, guys: you weren’t the be-all, end-all spokespeople for the black middle-class, the black intelligentsia, or the black bohemia.”

    “Name the rest.”

    However, you seemed to either have not read or chosen to leave out the paragraph that followed. –

    “If you weren’t middle class yourself, in most cases not all, and had access to personally, witness those images of upper middle class success in your everyday homelife and your parents enlightening you to those that came before them that paved the way – you didn’t. I have this discussion with people more than you’d believe who still believe the show wasn’t a reflection of any real black people anywhere. “A docter? A Lawyer? Married? Raising kids in a loving home with original art on the walls? All the kids went onto college? Hogwash!” I’ve given numerous copies of “Our kind of people” out to them to be told it’s a fictional novel. I had one person boldly proclaimed that Jack & Jill, once I told him what they were, and I quote – “That’s not real and if it is it was probably started by white people. Look at the name – Jack and Jill.” BTW, the person I speak of is black and has a college degree.”

    As I said for most people who didn’t have direct access to those images in their real life it didn’t exist and there were more of them than there were of us. Just a fact of the numbers.

  • slb

    GVG: I chose to address the “Name the rest” part of your comment because the thesis of this piece is that the Cosby Show is not the be-all, end-all (read: the *sole* or even the primary) indicator that a Black upper middle class exists. And if you’re not happy with my comment about other people you’ve encountered as “the rest” (or other examples), then your own book proves your point. Our Kind of People, though I don’t care for that book, is another resource that proves, for people who didn’t previously realize, that affluence exists for Blacks. What about the existence of all these orgs (Jack and Jill, Links, etc) that predate the Cosby Show by at least 60 years? What about the fact that people have been graduating from HBCUs as doctors and lawyers since the turn of the 20th century?

    That info is out there. It would’ve been there with or without the Cosbys, ergo they *aren’t* the only reason people know that a Black upper middle class exists. They aren’t the be-all, end-all.

  • LH

    slb, I appreciate your point and agree that “The Cosby Show,” isn’t essential to the existence of the black bourgeoisie, but what’s so wrong with a sitcom that cast blacks as relatively affluent?

    The show didn’t need to be the end all be all as long as it had a positive effect on some of its viewers, and I think we’ve established here that it did, right?

  • LH: I don’t wanna speak for Stacia here, but I think part of the reason why *I* cringed when I heard that quote by that woman was because it’s effects seemed to be overstated. GVG cited the uptick in enrollment at HBCU’s, but that’s one of those things that people say that they can’t prove.

    It’s as if the show itself wasn’t groundbreaking enough, so folks had to start making outlandish claims about its impact.

  • LH

    G.D.: Who’s to say if she was overstating the impact the Cosbys had on *her*? It would be different if she’d said, ‘All of my friends and I were inspired to go to college because of the Huxtables.’

    I stayed away from the uptick in HBCU enrollment precisely for the reason you cited: there’s no way to prove if it can be attributed to “The Cosby Show.”

    If I had to guess, I’d say the Cosbys didn’t *hurt,* but I think it’s a stretch to say that all of these folks went to school who, but for “The Cosby Show,” wouldn’t have.

  • LH: She didn’t say it helped her go to college; she said it was the reason she was married to an engineer and had two wonderful sons and made six figures. There’s something really creepy about that phrasing.

  • LH

    G.D.: Correct you are about what she actually said. Even so, creepy isn’t mutually exclusive to accurate, is it?

  • Tasha

    SLB,
    “That info is out there. It would’ve been there with or without the Cosbys, ergo they *aren’t* the only reason people know that a Black upper middle class exists. They aren’t the be-all, end-all.”

    To who i guess is the question.
    i’mm concede the end all but for many average white folk i’d say the cosby show was(and probably still is) the be all of evidence that there is a black middle class. I think you are underestimating the false legitimacy television grants.

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  • I know this is quite delayed but…I think you are overestimatin white people’s (and some Black people for that matter) knowledge that there was a serious Black middle class, its organizations, its history etc, etc. Even Black people (August Wilson comes to mind) said that Black people didn’t live like the Cosbys did…secondly you are underestimatin the power of la television…in a culture where people are too lazy to seek information on their own, Cosby show opened people to a world unkown to them. Was it revolutionary? Perhaps not. Was it groundbreaking? I think so. Please think of all the “Black” shows that came before it and how Black people were portrayed: The Jeffersons, Good Times, Gimme A Break and the images of the Black characters that come to mind…not too much diversity…If I searched deep in my soul, I gotta admit that I went to an HBCU for 2 reasons: going to my cousin’s homecomings at N.C. A&T and a Different World. Even though I grew up “middle class” neither of my parents had attended HBCUs, I wasn’t exposed to the real HU games, the Boule, Jack & Jill meetings…so for me the tv show had influence…