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I think she actually had a single valid point: things *have* been pushed through very quickly, with less-than-stellar results, and that is a reason to be cautious.

But after a while, I stopped listening to her stunning ignorance and started admiring her hair.

*headdesk*

I saw this last night and I also caught her ranting and raving at Spector about what the founding fathers would have wanted, and how she doesn’t want this country becoming a communist….blah, blah, uniformed, blah. She also said that she was 35 years old and had never been interested in politics before this.

Conscious, informed reading, researching can be incredibly boring–necessary, but Boring nonetheless. And I thought to myself, how do you reach people like this? How do you communicate and explain, without being a jerk, to this woman who’s probably a decent person, good wife and mother, that she has no idea what she’s talking about?

During the interview, she was backed into some corners and I remember her saying “I’m not that smart,” and I wanted to reach into the television and give her hug. But how do you reach people like this without resorting to eye rolling dismissal?

I’m not sure whether you’re talking about TARP or the stimulus package here. Their affects might be related, but they’re different, were established differently and have different problems.

Yeah, I don’t think there is a way to do that for a lot of folks. If you’re not of their tribe, then they don’t want to engage in good faith (and that probably goes double for a lot of progressives).

I once “force fed”- NPR (via a car pool )to an assciate who was very much molded from the same stuff as Katy Abrams. This was a change from the usual 24hour ““Focusing on the Family” and other Chrisian radio /media that individual consumed.

I definitely sympathize with Molly’s view point- because you can see how much WILLFUL ignorance some people wallow in. Its not a quick fix however. My experiment with the radio, and more importantly that individual trying to hook up with a handsome (dark skinned)Indian medical doctor who had just started attending our church cracked a little bit of light.

In an environment with out an inbuilt “moral”/social code automatically built into the dialogue… [I mean outside of any faith tradition]. I don’t know where you have the scope to. In fact even though I’m not even 35 years old (sarcasm) I’m very much stating to beleive people are hardwired to think certain ways and nothing you do/say will convience them otherwise

I am going to argue that liberals (even ones that dont work in a predominately Republican office in TX, like me) cant help but be exposed to a the right-wing viewpoint. It is a little like saying, “yknow, some women take the whole female viewpoint a little too far and shelter themselves from what men really think”. Republicans, especially on the far right end of the spectrum, are impossible to ignore. They will make their point known. Liberal Democrats are much more likely to shruggingly accept Republican agenda, and legitimize half-baked right-wing thoughts, when things like “facts” and “reality” are quickly ignored by Republicans who dont want to have to hear even a moderate left-wing voice.

You’re absolutely right, Molly. (But I don’t use Democrat and Progressive interchangeably.)

Good point. The two are sometimes mutually exclusive, true, and I forgot the contingent of Libertarian-leaning “progressives” whose viewpoint is more about being part of a mocking, elitist club and less about unity and actual progress.

wow, slow down with all that information…she is perfectly happy with the status quo–dont make her have to change the details of her life for the better!!! That is not what being a conservative woman is about!

I didnt mean to be so glib. I genuinely dont understand why the price of healthcare doesnt concern her. I have a personal history with self-pay health insurance and it is horrible. I dont believe these people when they say that they have regular, middle-class money concerns, because that is not the voice of a woman with genuine financial concerns.

or a lonely, stifled stay-at-home mom clinging too fiercely to the wrong values out of nostalgia and fear…

I don’t know how to explain it to people. I think the Democrats are doing a horrible job of trying to explain it, but health care policy is really dry and boring. They’d do a lot better if they had a population that had some understanding of macroeconomics, but few people do. I think that’s what the town halls were supposed to do, and this one kind of did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFEOdLxuZpU

It could go “Look (cause Obama always says look) private health insurance markets never work because no one going’s to predict what’s going to happen in your life and how much you should save in case you have to pay. Health insurance companies try to figure that out so they can figure out how much to charge you so they can make money, but they can’t figure it out so they make money by throwing sick people off their rolls. So it makes more sense for us all to be a buffer for each other, because we can do a pretty good job of predicting what’s going to happen to the country as a whole.”

but then that sounds like depending on each other, which they’ll just label as socialism.

So she always seemed to have faith in the government up until now and she never really knew what was going yet she wants everything restored back to the way it was… makes me wonder what’s really bugging her.

Ha, maybe she lets her husband do her hair while he is doing the finances.

But her curls are so well defined! She must be a pro at plopping.

that also gave me pause…the country has been run into the ground for more than a few years…but now you are concerned…

Yes.

Haha, it’s basically turning your head upside down and wrapping a towel around it, turban style. Let it sit for a 15 minutes to half an hour, then release. It helps dry curls without frizz, and keeps them voluminous.

That doesnt sound very Nancy Pelosi-an…

It’s teh internets, LF, everything needs a name.